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On 01-Jul-2011, Jerry said:	There is a greater proof of Joseph Smith’s plagiarism than you have expressed in 2 Nephi 24:12. It is a typical mistake of most plagiarists. Joseph Smith was no linguist. Therefore, he had no understanding of what he copied from the King James Bible. From Isaiah 14:12, the King James scholars decided to keep the proper name of the morning star, renamed by St. Jerome when he translated the Septuagint (Greek Scriptures) into Latin. St. Jerome used two Latin words, a verb and a noun, which means, “to bring light.” St. Jerome joined these two Latin words and capitalized the word, making it a proper noun. Now, understand that most ancient civilizations had a name for the morning star, the brightest star of the morning. Most had a different name for the brightest star of the evening, even though it was the same celestial body, the planet Venus. The Hebrews had a name for this bright star, “Heylel.” Regardless of the reasons St. Jerome had for renaming the morning star, and why the King James scholars chose to keep that name, Joseph Smith made a grave error when he copied that name. The name I’m referring to is, of course, “Lucifer.” The inclusion of that name is puzzling enough. How is it that these ancient gold plates, written in an ancient Egyptian text, contained a name of the morning star that had been renamed by St. Jerome long after the alleged writing on these gold plates? Joseph Smith claimed that, while he had no understanding of the Egyptian text, he did have use of the Urim and Tummim (misspelled and completely misunderstood), as well as the Angel Gabriel, to help translate this text. Perhaps the Archangel decided to go with the Latin version, rather than the original Hebrew name, and conveyed that name to Joseph Smith. Okay, not a great argument; but not completely beyond the realm of possibility. Ah, but Joseph Smith didn’t stop there. In the Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith wrote extensively on Lucifer. In fact, he claimed that, in primordial times, Lucifer was the name of an angel in Heaven, who later fell to Earth as the Devil. How is it that a fourth century Illyrian Catholic priest and apologist was able to stumble onto the primordial name of the Devil? For me, the use of Lucifer in 2 Nephi 24:12 is sufficient evidence to conclude that Joseph Smith plagiarized the King James Bible. As a teacher, it is not the correct answers common between two students, which proves that one copied from the other; it is the identical incorrect answers. After all, a correct answer is a correct answer. Identical anomalies will should prove sufficient.		Excellent info Jerry! Thanks!
On 24-Jun-2011, Oliver said:	Jolene makes a great point, albeit not one that disproves the validity of the Church. There is a constant struggle to get the LDS Church to change the manner in which they share information with law enforcement regarding child abuse. Sadly, this problem is not confined to just the LDS church though, and in my mind, this is one of the sickest crimes perpetrated by mankind.
On 24-Jun-2011, Suzanne said:	I've heard such comments as Jolene's from my early years growing up in the church. My mother told me of a Mormon bishop who "loved little children", and they were all afraid of him. As I've stated previously, I work around a lot of Mormons and am continually amazed at their so-called values. The other day, I noticed one of the guys in my carpool had a huge dent in his car. When I asked what happened, he told the other Mormon (he ignores me since he asked me THE QUESTION...could I ask what your religion is-- told him I could save him time--was Mormon--been there, done that--am not interested in your religion) so he says my relative wrecked the car and lied to me. I usually put earplugs in so I don't have to listen to their rhetoric, but I hadn't quite gotten them in and he said to the other guy (former bishopric member) I was going to turn it in as a hit and run... Occasionally, I do listen to them talk, and everything they say has been passed down from their parents or family. A guy I work with who's not Mormon said the other day--have you ever asked pointed questions like what is the Word of Wisdom to you? Or...what do you know about Christ, or ask some question about the Bible. You'll get many different answers. In mainstream religion, we have answers, and we can point to them. When I hear them talk, I pray that somewhere/somehow they'll be led to understand their church is built on untruths, that they don't have to strive for perfection--in God's eyes, they already are.
On 16-Jun-2011, Jolene West said:	"On 03-Sep-2009, zak k said: whatever you may beleive lds members are very kind and generous always willing to serve thy neighbour and community worlwide and does not have a well known culture of inquisition and crusades and pedophiles." I had NO intention on leaving a comment until I scrolled to the bottom and found the one above. Excuse me, did he really say there isn't a well known culture of inquisition, crusades, and pedophiles? He must not have heard about the Mountain Meadow Massacre? Also, mormons have just as much or more issues surrounding incest, pedophiles, and pornography, than any other religion; they just do a better job of hiding it. I was born into a devout mormon family, and thought there was something wrong with me, because I could never quite embrace the doctrine. At the age of 14, I found out my father had been a convicted pedophile. It sickened me to the core; my world shattered. To my relief, my mother finally divorced him while I was still in high school. We all wished she could have found the courage to do it sooner as I am the youngest of a large family. In my early twenties, I formally renounced any affiliation I had with mormons, and that was 35 years ago. During the early years of my marriage, my husband was a Salt Lake County Police Officer. Though he was asked many times to work in the juvenile department, he continually refused. His response; "I don't want to end up punching out a mormon bishop one day." His response stemmed from an experience where he was called in to arrest a pedophile, the mormon bishop was there and commenced to tell the officer's the man had repented, (yeah right). Then the attorney general wouldn't even allow the case to go to court, because after all, it's Utah, land of zion, and it would be a waste of tax payer dollars. I don't have exact statistics but I personally know of countless cases, where friends, relatives, nieces and nephews, have all been sexually abused by a family member. There is a HUGE number of pedophiles that hide behind the mormon religion. For years I've been silent, but I can no longer bare the lies that blind other members of my family. I'm so grateful for your site, and others such as; Exmormon.org, that expose the deception of JS and the early history of mormonism. Keep up the good work, and may your efforts be blessed.
On 16-Jun-2011, Pam Thompson said:	I just came across your site while researching the Morman religion. It saddens me to think there are so many people who are mislead and deceived by this religion. Thank you for the information you have shared. We need to pray for God to open the eyes of those who are deceived and equip us with the tools to be able to reach them.		Thanks Pam...I hope that my site provides as many of those tools as possible.
On 03-Jun-2011, Jose Hurtado said:	I will accept the validity of Joseph Smith's "revelation" if I can have some sound proof that he is a man of God. I doubt a man of God would preach against polygamy in his first publication, and then approve of it in his following book. I doubt a man of God would be involved in a twisted fraternity such as the Freemasons, or use certain parts of the Bible to justify his teachings, but reject other scriptures. However, I will give JS credit for his crafty mind. He was clever enough to say the Bible was mistranslated so he could reject any scripture which condemns his teaching. However, I am puzzled at one point: why would God allow his Holy Word to go mistranslated for such a long period of time? Did God want to hide salvation for 1800 years? yeah, that sounds like the loving God of Mormonism, a pig who can't make up his mind, who hate blacks, views women as property, and who is about as smart as an average human being (see Theological Proof: Man’s Intelligence).
On 02-Jun-2011, Colton said:	After reading this site, I would have to say, marvelous job on the research. Half of my family's Mormon, and they get incredibly pissed when you question some questionable things in a questionable thing such as Mormonism. The Bible teaches us to give reasons as to why we believe, and most Mormons cannot even give good, logical reasons as to why they believe. Being someone who was cynical their whole life, I don't accept blind faiths, and most Mormons are believing in a blind faith. I dare any Mormon to read this evidence on this site then ask themselves, "Do I REALLY believe in Mormonism?" But sadly, most humans are too ignorant to recognize their own ignorance.
On 26-May-2011, Oliver said:	"How in the world could the government forced us to give the blacks the priesthood?" The unofficial real reason is a threat by the IRS regarding racial gender and tax exempt status. The LDS Church is very, very, very concerned that it keeps it's tax exempt status clean, and unencumbered. They even mention this in the "Church Handbook."
On 21-May-2011, LindaSDF said:	1. http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Abraham.shtml 2. Since this is not scripture, this is Joseph SMith's theories and not church doctrine. 3. Paul's statement does not say just the opposite, it says that, however many gods there might be, real or imagined, for US, there is ONE God, our Heavenly Father, and ONE LORD, our Saviour Jesus Christ. 4. God has told us, that as it is, it is still "profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." (2 Timothy 3:16, 17), as is the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine & Covenants, etc. 5. Who said it wasn't God who commanded us to cease the practice of plural marriage? And how in the world could the government have forced us to give blacks the4 priesthood? That goes strictly against the First Amendment. But then, they did that with plural marriage, too, so why not with the priesthood? Right? Every group has freedom of religion, except the Mormons? That's what you're saying it seems.		1. Thanks for pointing to another apologist site that doesn't answer the question. 2. So your prophet, who speaks to God, says something you believe to be false and you justify it by saying it isn't church doctrine??? 3. The previous statement says clearly "there is none other God but one" and then Paul reinforces the statement. You are attempting to take his statement completely out of context and inserting your own language "real or imagined" to support your false claims. 4. Try again. 5. It wasn't God because God never would have told you to practice polygamy in the first place...and the US government would not have granted statehood to Utah without it ending. Same thing with the priesthood...your church waited until it was politically expedient to make the change...it was not a principaled position. Where do I say the Mormons don't have the right to practice their religion? They absolutely have the right to practice a false religion and I have the right to inform them of that fact.
On 28-Apr-2011, Sarah said:	I just read Plagiarism and I am having trouble understanding why people use these things to dis-credit Joseph Smith? It seems like a good argument but when you bring into account that Joseph Smith RESTORED the Gospel well than of course there would be similarities in the Bible. The more the better I always say...that means that we have managed to preserve at least some truth. Great job with your research!		Sarah, it isn't a matter of providing "similar" teachings...the issue is the copying, word for word, of over 20 chapters from Isaiah as translated in the King James Bible. Even if the alleged Book of Mormon authors had Isaiah available to them, the translation by Joseph Smith would not match word for word with the King James scribes, who predated Joseph Smith by 3 centuries. Nor do I find it plausible that a prophet would quote that extensively from another prophet. Then, there is also the quoting from the New Testament and Old Testament prophets (Malachi) that were not available to the alleged Book of Mormon authors, who would have been separated by time (Book of Mormon authors predate the authors they are quoting) and an ocean.
On 28-Apr-2011, Sarah said:	I am a Mormon and I have to say, I liked the part titled "Physical Proof".It is my view that if everybody started with Adam and Eve, than we were taught by Adam and Eve. After they died we carried on our own interpretation of their traditions. I like that there are similar depictions out there other than just what is in the Book of Abraham, it makes the above scenario more real. I also found the translation of the Leiden Hypocephalus (similar to Facsimile#2) to be VERY intriguing- Scene 8-15 Joseph Smith: For sections 8-11: "Contains writings that cannot be revealed unto the world; but is to be had in the Holy Temple of God..." For sections 12-15: "will be given in the own due time of the Lord." Michael Rhodes: Line 8 reads: "Grant that the soul of the Osiris, Shishaq, may live (eternally)." Very interesting article! :)		Thanks for the comment Sarah.
On 17-Apr-2011, Suzanne said:	We've lived in UT for nearly 12 years. I recently learned there's a huge Danish population here--many people were "recruited" by the Mormon Church in the early 1900's. My friend's Grandmother/Grandfather were two of them. They were told if they came to UT, the church would take care of them, so they left everything and everyone they knew and moved to a foreign country, only to realize they could sink or swim, but the church was not going to help them. They nearly starved, but her Grandfather was extremely industrious and through hard work, bought a lot of land. They were lucky, but only because they figured out they had to keep attending church to make nice with these people or they would starve. When her one Grandfather died, he was buried in Masonic clothing. When the other one died, he was buried in Mormon garments. Guess what? They were exactly alike! Go look at the SLC temple, and you can see the Masonic markings on the outside. Also, I recommend reading No Man Knows My History, a well written book about Joseph Smith--a book that is banned reading for any Mormon. My faith teaches me that God loves me, faults and all, and he doesn't need me to continue striving for perfection--in His eyes, I'm already there.
On 15-Apr-2011, Oliver said:	Had a discussion with an LDS friend of mine the other day on why his claim of being an LDS Christian was over reaching. Then it occurred to me that the vast members of the church really don't give a hoot about their origins or what their gospel tells them. They just know, and don't hesitate to tell you that it is the one "true church." Well, let us review a few of these beliefs and tell me that it is the true church of God. The Book of Mormon given to JS Smith by God? errr no, it was written by Solomon Spaulding. God lives on a planet called Kolob. Two tribes of Hebrews came to the Americas in "U boats" and formed a new civilization….none of which, of course, can be substantiated by artifacts, DNA, or any other method. To be Christian is to believe in the atonement of sin. It is the belief that Jesus was the son of God, and through his teachings, and a belief in him, you shall achieve eternal salvation….Mormons don't buy this version of Christ. It is like saying you are a Laker fan just because you put the shirt on. In fact, a pretty interesting discussion on this was an interview by the "Prophet Hinkley" done in Paris. He says that the Christ most people believe in is not the Mormon Christ.. Most of us believe in equality. Mormons believe that men are superior to women in every regard, that it is "delightful" to be white, women are their most prized possessions, and if you are gay, well to hell with you. Having problems with the foundations of the church? No problem, "It is not spiritually healthy to delve into the history of the church." I still, to this day, feel absolutely terrible for spreading this gospel on my mission. I'm glad the statute of limitations ran out a long time ago for perpetuating, aiding, and conspiracy to commit fraud.
On 10-Apr-2011, Timothy Brown said:	Mormons hear this! My post was shrewd but true. I live in southern Utah and the Mormons I know and love Hide some of their lies and other sins, but say they simply repent of the not so dark sins. Christians can see you're living under the rule of the leadership of the church, like the words of wisdom. If you go against the word that JS set up as rule, on top of the 10 commandments, you are controlled under the law which produces unworthiness. Christians through reading and understanding the Jesus of the bible grow into a humble relationship With Jesus by doing what He teaches: He is the sin offering for ALL the sins of the world which is of no value to the person struggling to be good. I wouldn't be rude about it, but real Christians can see your phony goodness. ask Jesus into your personal space where you can lay all your sins at his feet and stop pretending to be a non sinner. Are you an adulterer? Jesus said: " If you look at a woman with a lustful eye you've committed adultery in your heart. Trust me, you will be less of a sinner when you live in Jesus' loving mercy, instead of Gods punishing wrath! Grace IS the vehicle that will allow you eternal life! If authority and obedience are the elements that Generate Eternal life, you really need to look at the ending result, step outside of Mormonism and take another look. These truths are only good if you personally ask Jesus into your heart.
On 06-Apr-2011, Timothy Brown said:	SPJ, I don' know if you know it but the rituals of the Mormon temple are not of God but coincide with the rituals of the Freemason secret society of Which Joseph Smith was High ranking. The brain washing of the Mormon members is done using the Lie "family is central to gods plan" That sets off what is known as cognitive Dissonence. That means that you won't give up those you love most for a word you don't understand GRACE You'll say you believe the bible but the truth is you cannot believe the bible! The bible doesn't make sense to you! You are told that the book of Mormon is true and it's not Joseph Smith Invented some stories and names that sound biblical. He even invented a false prophet called Alma who said Jesus will be born in Jerusalem, AAAH, a couple of phony tribes called lamenites and nephites. sounds good. prove it. Sir there is a reason you are lashing out on us followers of the true Jesus. It's because You know in your heart it's all fake but you must hold on to your wife and kids for ever instead of a Jesus you will never know! Jesus is central to God's plan! Dude don't be stubborn. Go to a bible believing church where you'll find the worship of Jesus, the joy of Jesus, the warmth of Jesus, the truth of Jesus the love of Jesus, the Mercy of Jesus You'll learn that you now longer have to Try to follow Jesus or hope you make it to heaven. When you become born again like the bible says: "unless a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of the God" That means you won't understand the bible until you are born again! Born again is a relationship with The Loving Jesus! Then the beautiful, awesome, exciting, saving words of God will make sense to you. But not until then. Listen. It's all about Him not you.
On 02-Apr-2011, Gary Olsen said:	During the Protestant Reformation in the early 1500s, a familiar term regarding salvation was "sola fide," Latin for "by faith alone." The reformers, at that time, accused the Catholic Church of departing from the "simple purity of the Gospel" of Jesus Christ. They stated it was faith alone, without works of any kind, that brought a believer to eternal life. They defined this faith as "the confidence of man, associated with the certainty of salvation, because the merciful Father will forgive sins because of Christ's sake." This view of salvation is a crucial issue because it strikes at the very heart of the Gospel message eternal life. Roman Catholicism teaches that we are not saved by faith alone. The Church has taught this since 30 A.D. as part of the Divine Revelation. The truth of the Catholic Church's teaching can be demonstrated from Sacred Scripture alone. All who claim the title "Christian" will be able to agree on the following two truths: salvation is by grace alone (Ephesians 2:8) and salvation is through Christ alone (Acts 4:12). These biblical facts will be our foundation as we explain the teaching of the Catholic Church. If we take a concordance and look up every occurrence of the word "faith," we come up with an undeniable fact the only time the phrase "faith alone" is used in the entire Bible is when it is condemned (James 2:24). The epistle of James only mentions it in the negative sense. Paul speaks of faith as a life-long process, never as a one-time experience (Philippians 2:12). He never assumes he has nothing to worry about. If he did, his words in (1 Corinthians 9:24-27) would be nonsensical. He reiterates the same point again in his second letter to Corinth (2 Corinthians 13:5). He takes nothing for granted, yet all would agree if anyone was "born again" it certainly was Paul. Our Lord and Savior spoke of the same thing by "remaining in Him" (John 15:1-11). Paul tells us our faith is living and can go through many stages. It never stays permanently fixed after a single conversion experience no matter how genuine or sincere. Our faith can be shipwrecked (1 Timothy 1:19), departed from (1 Timothy 4:1), disowned (1 Timothy 5:8) wandered from (1 Timothy 6:10), and missed (1 Timothy 6:21). Christians do not have a "waiver" that exempts them from these verses. The Catholic Church has never taught we "earn" our salvation. It is an inheritance (Galatians 5:21), freely given to anyone who becomes a child of God (1 John 3:1), so long as they remain that way (John 15:1-11). You can't earn it but you can lose the free gift given from the Father (James 1:17). From a lecture by Sal Ceresi
On 02-Apr-2011, SPJ said:	memo to all these so-called evangelical "christians" out there who think they have any authority to damn a member of the mormon faith to hell,Christ is our lord and SAVIOR and JUDGE and did i mention SAVIOR? just because they dont believe in the inept beliefs as the mainstream culture of orthodox christianity does not expell them from being a christian,it astounds me today and im quite embarASSed to belong to the christian faith when you people are harrassing,berrating,slandering and go as for as lying and mis-representing their beliefs the mormon faith and the mormon leaders,i thought christians were to bring people to christ?? but instead you guys are totally wasting your time and effort on a faith you know little to none of,its unfortunate that bigotry still exist in this very country that was founded on religous principle and liberties,i challenge you guys to make amends with your mormon brothers and sisters who follow Jesus Christ the best that they can,time to remove that beams in your eyes,really if anything all of you who mock and slander the mormon faith just proves your insecure in your own religion,your ignorance and bigotry towards the mormon faith you guys arent doing anyone any favors it just adds more fuel to the fire,you guys are on a sinking ship,what a bunch dirtbags you are!		SPJ, there are certainly some who approach Mormons with the wrong message, but let's not over generalize. You posted the comment to my site and spoke of many lies and mis-representations of Mormon beliefs. Where has my site done that? Please provide specifics. If you actually take the time to read the information I provide, most of which comes from Mormon scriptures, you might learn something that you didn't even know.
On 31-Jan-2011, Timothy Brown said:	I am so concerned about LDS members! I'm also concerned what kind of prophet JS WAS. Approach any Mormon. Tell them the bible says there's nothing you have to do to earn your place in heaven except love Jesus & they won't believe you, "the bible is written by man and is corrupted". tell them there's only 1 God they'll agree with you. Yet Brigham Young says there's many gods. In my earlier days if you told them that Jesus is God they would argue with you. Now the authority is allowing that concept I guess! There's gotta be a way to show members that the love of Jesus is a personal, individual relationship with Him that will produce a joyful sense of his forgiveness and loving presence! Verses an unloving distant god who is ready to punish and cut them off from the eternal family spin. How can anyone reject the wonderful things that are offered in the bible! Members! You are rejecting the grace that Jesus has for those who love Him. Leading me to a brand new question! Members do you love Him! The New Testament is full of information that teaches born again Christians how to grow in his love! Mysteriously funny thing about it! Only "born again (personal relationship with Him) Christians can understand it. (They don't call us saved for noth'n. Woohoo!!) Jesus truly loves you members and is patiently waiting for you to abandon your false prophets and worthless obedience. Darn now I have to explain worthless obedience. I mean: If you don't trust in the !00 % free grace That Jesus offers in His word! You are rejecting his word! and in turn rejecting Him! So If there's any members reading this post. don't touch the bible til you can pray the sinners prayer and mean it! Its as simple as this: I ask you Jesus to come into my heart, and be my lord and savior.I am a sinner, forgive me of my sins. I confess you as Lord and savior of my life, I give you my life and ask that you would give me your holy spirit to take control of my life from this point on thank you Jesus, amen. I know he's waiting!
On 25-Jan-2011, Timothy Brown said:	I am so beside myself trying to figure out a way to show Mormon members the way to the true Jesus. Those Mormon Prophets really know how to keep the illusion going. I wonder if in the Hierarchy leadership system they know the concept of grace. that they could redirect the destiny of millions of precious saints and direct them to Jesus who will be waiting with open arms. Probably not! President Monson probably don't know any better himself. He probably believes that he's going to be a god upon his death. Well I doubt it. Anyone who has read the bible should be able to see that Eternity with Jesus is for those who except his grace. not all that other stuff and try to save themself. I'm praying for those saints to become saved!
On 19-Dec-2010, Timothy Brown said:	Kyle. Christianity is based on the love that Jesus has for us as individuals and the love that we grow in our hearts for Jesus! "He is the true God and eternal life." (1st John 5:20). When you realize that by simply loving Jesus, He gives you a desire to not sin, but you will sin! it's your nature You'll realize that you don't deserve the beautiful, awesome gift of life eternal with Him, then he tells you (bible) that what he did on the cross is what paid for your sins. This is the GRACE! Do not underestimate that word Grace. Grace is not just an element of the love of Jesus! Grace is the mechanism that affords us eternal life. Kyle. Please Listen! You've been miss led. Please, please hear what I'm telling you. When you put anything in the place of Grace, like any kind of church rule or recommend you are saying that you don't believe that Jesus really died on the cross for you. that is the Gospel! That is what you need to be telling the kid who sits next to you in your college class or the man next door in your free time not 2 years in another country. Christianity is not a religion! It is a relationship with Jesus Christ. If you want a real blessing? Bring some one to the real kingdom of Jesus and Jesus will be giving you a crown. Kyle Read the bible every word in it is 100% true. God authored the bible through several true prophets. I wrote this post with the love of Jesus in my heart not the pride of I'm right and you're wrong. God bless everyone who reads this post!
On 16-Dec-2010, Oliver said:	Kyle, you proclaim the lds faith to be Christian because it is contained in the name of your church? Wow, that is spiritually and logically sound argument. I am sure the rest of the millions of people in the world that question mormons being Christians are breathing a big sigh of relief. BTW Kyle, can you use of your divine influence with God to get the United States to join Switzerland in regards to mormon missionaries? After 2012, the Swiss government will no longer admit any lds missionaries into the country. Can we PLEASE sign up for this program?
On 15-Dec-2010, Kyle said:	I can understand youre doubts about mormonism as God has given us all minds with the ability to question and form opinions and i do not in any way bash you for what you post here and i can actually see what youre trying to do and it isnt malicious at all because you are doing what any good christian would do which is to declare your faith and to testify of what you believe to be true and so i thank you for youre intentions but i do still disagree with the information you present on here.. i am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and i can say that without a doubt i wholeheartedly believe in this church and my faith is unwavering i believe that Joseph Smtih was called as a Prophet to RESTORE not create the true church of God. There is evidence in the Bible as well as in the Book of Mormon that point to the fact that there would be an apostasy, i gained my testimony not from a simple good feeling inside of me but i have done my research ive prayed about it and i received confirmation in heart and mind this religion is the most logical to me and as you said logic and religious are not exclusively separate.. the teachings all make sense to me and are supported by the Bible, lets just say that you are right and that the founders of this church were false in what they started (which i in no way believe) i would urge you to look into the modern state of the church you see today we peform ordinances that no other church on this earth practice today which are stated as necessary in the Bible such as Baptisms for the Dead supported by 1 Corinthians 15:29 and i dont see any other christian faiths in which there are temples which are necessary to perform such ordinances since there is no other church that has these things incorporated it leads me to believe that this church is the real deal it all ties together and makes sense..in regards to you calling Joseph Smith a false prophet this would imply that there are correct prophets as well and the way to find out is to test their fruits and if they are good then it must be true for a clean fountain cannot produce poison just as a poisoned fountain cannot poduce clean water.. look at the things we do in our church and you will see there is nothing that contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ, we are a very service oriented church and serving your fellow man is essentially serving God.. i would urge you to reconsider your thought about us and read with real purpose and real intent without having made a pre thought out decision in your head that it is false, and one more thing in closing in regards to us being referred to as non-christian it makes no sense to say that the evidence is in our name.. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints it is completely illogical to call us unchristian because we have a few doctrinal differences.. because in all christian faiths there are slight differences in belief but no one calls them unchristian for it.. christian comes from Christs name and if one excercises faith in Christ then to me they are a christian no matter the difference of doctrines.. i say this to you as a future missionary for my church as i depart in january to teach and serve the people in Colombia and i leave this as a testimony of my faith to any who care to read it. I know that Christs true church was RESTORED to this earth by the prophet Joseph Smith and that he was called of God for this divine task and i know that what i believe to be true i know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and my Redeemer and that he is the Only Begotten Son of God, I leave this with you in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.		Kyle, thanks for the courteous post, but please read my Book of Abraham page. It is physical proof that Joseph Smith was a fraud. Read it and tell me where I'm wrong; tell me why Joseph Smith can be trusted given that information. On the use of the word Christian, if I say I am a Christian but claim that Christ is only a man, not the son of God, and that he never actually raised from the dead, would you have a problem with that? What if I called my church, "Jesus Christ's True Church"? Would that give me the right to call myself a Christian? It is not the name of the church or the name of the person you revere, it is what you believe about Jesus that makes you a Christian or not.
On 05-Dec-2010, Suzanne said:	It's been a while since I visited your website. I was raised in the Mormon religion until I was a teen, at which time I begged my mother to let me quit going--just never "got it". Years later, I found Christ in the Episcopal Church. I finally figured out that I didn't have to obey, or listen to uneducated people called to give advice. My older sister also did not attend church during her lifetime, but her spouse died and she went back to the church. She has been diagnosed with Parkinson's and MS. After a series of sad incidents, she came to live near us after having been away for 2 years. She has been so financially burdened, yet, the church people prey on the elderly in our area. I found out in order to be "worthy" enough to wear garments and go to the temple, she has had to give 10% of what she gets to the church. There are other elderly folks who live around us, and they tell stories of the church men coming to their homes to ask about their finances. So is this religion all about money?? It angers me because we see people who can hardly buy groceries, yet the church squeezes every cent they can get from them. No other real church would do that, I guarantee you! If you're looking for God, he will find you with no expectation of a 10% tithe.
On 01-Dec-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	Mike, the webmaster is basing his beliefs on the Bible; it just so happens that the webmaster is catholic and the Bible supports much of catholic belief. How does the Bible support Mormonism? I am not asking for one mistranslated verse which leaves us wondering, "How did that belief come from that verse?"
On 01-Dec-2010, Oliver said:	Mike, let us pretend for a minute that you are correct. The Catholics believe that the keys to their church was handed to them by God, to Peter. This is mentioned in 7 different books in the New Testament. Peter was a saint, and is almost always listed as the first disciple. Joe Smith, on the other hand, is not listed anywhere. Peter was a virtuous man of God. Smith was incapable of uttering the truth, a convicted cheater, had sexual relations with girls under the age of fifteen, and changed changed his word of "God" to fit his whim. Yes, I can see how comparing the foundations of Catholicism and Mormonism might not be a good idea.
On 29-Nov-2010, Mike said:	You have wasted a ludicrous amount of time. As for Theological Proof, you have not disproved the Mormon religion, you've simply combatted it with the specific beliefs of Catholicism that contradict those of Mormonism.		Mike, my Theological proof is based on the English language translation of the Bible and the Book of Mormon...why is it that the God of the Mormons conceals His doctrines in "scripture" that contradicts those doctrines? You Mormons always have to add words, which reverse the meaning of the verses as written in order to support your beliefs. Take a look at the Physical proof, which is not subject to interpretation and then hit me with your best shot.
On 03-Nov-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	When Melissa said that books have been taken out of the Bible, she was true to a point. In the first centuary, all the standard books of the New Testament were written. In later centuaries, other forged books were written by false teachers much like Joseph Smith. One example would be "The Gospel of Thomas," written in the second centuary when Thomas was supposed to be dead. Other forged books were written under the name of an Apostle or a New Testament Character to promote false doctines. The majority of these books were written by a heretical movement called Gnosticism, teaching that only a select few would obtain a saving knowledge called "gonsis". According to such gnosis, the God of the Old Testament was a lesser god created by a goddess Named Sophia, and other gods were born from higher celestial beings. Does this remind you of anything? Gnostics also claimed they alone had authority to teach about God, yet they blamed the church for "unfairly" rejecting them. Does this also sound familiar?
On 12-Oct-2010, Melissa said:	I am Mormon. I in no way agree with what you have said but I understand how you can be confused about somethings you have read. If you will allow me I would like to clear up just a couple things. In regards to the 11th Article of Faith, it isn't saying that it is ok to worship other Gods. It means to be tolerant of others beliefs (does this sound familiar to the 1st amendment to the Constitution?) You also say that we believe that the Book of Mormon is superior to the Bible. I can honestly say that is something I was never taught. You could say we believe the Book of Mormon is more correct. The Book of Mormon has not been known about as long, it hasn't been passed through multiple peoples hands and through different religions who can interpret it incorrectly. The Bible, on the other hand, has been around for centuries. Books have been taken out of it and things changed simply to fit the doctrine of the religion who was using it. We fully believe what happened in the Bible but as stated "as long as it is translated correctly". And can you blame us? You wouldn't want to be taught how to live out of a book that had been changed simply for others gain. That is all I have to say and I hope it may help you not to see us in such a horrible light. And if I could ask you a favor, before you go on belittling more of our beliefs, look in to the full text and ask others before posting things without knowing the full truth or taking things out of context. If you fully believe what you are doing is right then good for you for trying to help others. But I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true and you are hurting yourself more than you could ever hurt God's church. May God be with you always.		Melissa, thanks for taking a kind approach in your comments. I am doing this to truly help Mormons, so don't think this is a drive by website. I have debated extensively with the most prominent Mormon apologists, and they all eventually retreat in the face of overwhelming evidence that Joseph Smith was a false prophet. If you have not read my Book of Abraham page, please do...I recently udpated it to counter every defense that Mormons raise regarding that so-called scripture. On your article of faith comment, I suggest you use the Bible instead of the Constitution to validate your beliefs. While the US Constitution is an amazing documents, I think we would both agree that the Bible is the only authoritative source for this discussion.
On 10-Oct-2010, Timothy Brown said:	Precious members. If you're not sure of your salvation (Most say "I hope so") or think you're going to some lesser heaven. Speak this prayer to Jesus in a personal way, from your heart. Then read the books of John, Acts and Romans.......... Paul of Tarsus is tons more believable than Joseph Smith. ( Now i ask you Jesus to come into my heart, and be my lord and savior.I am a sinner, forgive me of my sins. I confess you as Lord and savior of my life, I give you my life and ask that you would give me your holy spirit to take control of my life from this point on thank you Jesus, amen.) As I said before, we Chistrians only want to see you members saved. I attended an LDS baptism Saturday. All involved believe that submersion makes you fresh, clean, pure members of Heavenly Father's true church, A new start they say. My prayer for all members is for you to come to the true Jesus. Please don't think to yourselves "I am worshiping the true Jesus". I have President Hinkely on tape saying "The Jesus of the Bible is not the same Jesus we worship". Real Christians humbly admit the inability to overcome sin. So trust us when we ask you to be born again via the sinners prayer. Humble yourself, get on your knees and pray it, read the New Testament. There is true joy in the WORD. I am a member too and can see the contrast. My testimony is that the bible becomes understandable after being born again (Saved by Grace) Understanding what Jesus teaches is the essence of eternal life. No doubt!. Oh! You probably won't hear to many Christians proclaim they believe in Paul of Tarsus or Luke or John. though we do. Now you can replace trying to be good enough with the loving, awesome, loving foundation of Jesus Christ who is the true God.
On 26-Aug-2010, Oliver said:	Indeed the two religions are similar. To expound on the original poster, Muslims and Mormons are the only religions that claim to be "The" religion of God. Both treat their women as slightly more than seminal vessels to propagate, support, and ask no questions. Both religions ignore criticism out of hand, and wrap themselves in the cloak of, "it must be true if so many oppose it." Both religions require a specific clothing to be worn, and both are completely intolerant of alternative lifestyles. I would also argue that neither is christian, both stand in the way of progressive dogma, and believe that countries should be run by their religious leaders.
On 25-Aug-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	There are a lot of interesting simularities between Mormonism and Islam. For instance, Mormons and Muslims bothe believe that the Bible is inspired, yet horrible mistranslated. Another simularity is how Joseph Smith and Muhammad recieved their message; from an angel. In addition, Mormons and Muslims both go through manditory fasting and giving to their religous community; though the requirements dffer. Need something else? The Pilgramge site at Mecca is forbidded to non Muslims like the LDS temples, and both have simular architecture.
On 11-Aug-2010, Oliver said:	Or I guess we could run television ads around the country and say "Hey, we are normal just like you." You do this because every religion advertises on TV....Oh, wait, I guess they don't. Sort of an interesting duality that you have to run a TV ad to convince normal people that you are normal....		Don't those ads irritate the heck out of you!
On 31-Jul-2010, Oliver said:	Perhaps we could reduce the validity of LDS church being the true church of God down to one simple question....Would God disallow a female to enter his church if she was wearing a pant suit instead of a dress?
On 27-Jul-2010, Stan said:	For the Mormons who whine and complain when people challenging the truthfulness of their church, consider who it was that attacked ALL other religions and creeds. "I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were abomination in His sight; that those professors were all corrupt." - Smith's 1st Vision.
On 25-Jul-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	One Mormon belief is that they are a restoration of the original church. Far from it! The original church leaders lived in poverty, just like their followers, and they did not demand their followers to tithe to them anually. In Mormonism, the leaders of have incrediable finacial demands on their followers, and they live in extreme wealth. I doubt the original church had such demands.
On 21-Jul-2010, Allen said:	"On 08-Jun-2009, Melody Mott said: I think that no matter what church you go to, we all beleive in GOD who is our heavnely father and the one that die for us all on the cross. I hate people that put other people down for what they beleive in."However the LDS church teaches that God is not Jesus. That God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings with a singular cause. Therefore by your own statement God did not die on the cross for us.The LDS church has three conflicting teachings on the nature of God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost. One is that they are separate beings with a singular cause. A second is that they are one being that manifests as three. The third is that God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are separate beings that hail from the planet Kolob and were once simple men who rose to godhood along side many others. All three of these teachings are available on LDS.org.Even my former bishop can't make heads or tails of it. I love this site and all the wonderful information I've come across because of it.		Great points Allen...Thanks!
On 17-Jul-2010, jason said:	thank you so much for this site. if mormons truly believe in the bible then they would know their religion is an abomination. "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." KING JAMES VERSIONmay God have mercy on your souls and show you the way before its too late.
On 12-Jul-2010, Timothy Brown said:	Wow. Fun reading! Do I sense a little rebellious backlash in some of you L D S members. Mainstream Christians who are truly born again only want to see L D S members saved. You think because we are not under the law, we are not obeying the lord. We have the 10 commandments to show us that we are sinners! We must not live in guilt and worry, because that makes us a prisoner to the law. Now because Jesus is the end of the law we are slaves to love, because Jesus tells us to love! It is so refreshing to be a prisoner to Jesus. Lovers of the loving Jesus sometime try to hard to bring the lost to the true Jesus. Born again Christians need to realize that devout L D S members were taught the wrong book first, blocking the ability to put the true word into their heart. You've been falsely told the bible is not true Members don't study verses like1 John 5:20 ("where it says We Know the son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true, even his son Jesus Christ who is the true God and eternal life.") because they're convinced it's not true. I'm here to tell you the Bible is true. You need to read it, study it and digest it because it is the will and TESTAMENT of our one and only God, our Lord Jesus Christ. Yes you can say the same thing about the book of Mormon and we would study it. The hard part about that is, the authors of the Mormon books lose their credibility with zero historical proofs and multiple false prophesies! I weep at the stubborn denial of my friends & family who can't see the truth or won't research it (study the true word) for fear of excommunication.Jesus says again and again about Grace that he is speaking the truth. When you chose to live by the rules of the church instead of excepting the free gift of God, you are calling Jesus a liar. It is not the Grace of God + be good by keeping the commandments. You must depend on Grace alone. The fear will disappear!
On 01-Jun-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	If Mormonism is true; then God let the world go into darkness for a long period of human history (thus denying us godhood, and the only thing to connect to him we had was a mistranslated Bible. That does not sound like a God of love; that is the god of a twisted Cult!
On 31-May-2010, Michelle said:	Before my family joined the LDS church we asked MANY questions, and all were answered. I "church hopped" to find a religion that I felt was true. This was the ONLY church where the members acted the same way Mon-Sat, like they did on Sunday at church. This is the only church where you see young adults willing to take 2 years of their lives to do nothing but to help others, they give up tv, music, their family and friends to truly spread the word of Jesus and to teach. The wonderful beauty of America is that we have the freedom of religion, it seems that your time would have been much better spent strengthing your religion they tearing down some one elses. Religion should be based uppon attraction.		Michelle, religion should be based on TRUTH, not attraction...
On 24-May-2010, Robert said:	Thanks for the hard work and the systematic attempt at shedding some light for us all. I was first exposed to the remarkable work of the LDS when I was in the army (1980s). There was a strong sub-culture of LDS that "took care of their own" in a real and tangible way. The emphasis on family and good works was quite impressive to me as a young Christian and I was ashamed that much of the Church doesn't do as good of a job living out their faith in a visible way as most of the Mormons.That said, I have been very troubled lately by the overt attempt to go "mainstream" ecumenical by the LDS. The propaganda is very impressive and attempts to desensitize us to the very word "cult". There seems to be a program (in our culture as well as Mormonism) to make our language equivocal rather than univocal and worship a "mush-god" that changes with our tastes and fickle sensitivities. The fruit of this program reveals the author of it. And he is not Jesus' brother by any ridiculous fantasy.I am a creature. But the Good News is that the Creator loves me. And in the awful paradox of my sin and separation I can learn about holiness and God and a love that would otherwise be unknowable. When I was a child I sought after perfection and to win affection by some good deed. When I became a man I discovered that wasn’t really love at all. I like my “non-god” status. In fact, I would rather shovel poop out in God’s barn than be lord over a great land (or world). I love Him and my only desire is that I can find a way just to be nearer to Him…
On 23-May-2010, Joel Heaton said:	My last post was on May 15th, the day that we Latter Day Saints celebrate the restoration of the Priesthood of God back to man. This took place with Joseph Smith, Jr. and Oliver Cowdery present where first John The Baptist came and later Peter, James and John to personally confer the Priesthood on them connecting the link back to Christ that was lost. This was necessitated because of the abuse and subsequent loss of the Priesthood after the original twelve apostles died. (Do you really want to go through the gory details?) It was prophesied by Paul that there would be a FALLING AWAY before Christ came again.ll Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;As with all Priesthood there is always more than one witness to the event. Were Joseph and Oliver both duped? It's like the witnesses to the Book of Mormon plates, did all eleven not claim to have witnessed the plates etc.? Were they all duped? Pretty soon it gets to the point of being ridiculous when people challenge that the plates never existed. Matthew 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.II Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.Now do you really want to put the Catholic Church on trial to make the claim that there is an unbroken line of authority back to Peter? It will get the the point of being absurd I promise. One thing that knowledgeable Catholics almost universally agree on is the necessity of that Priesthood going back to Peter who received it from Christ.Joseph's and Oliver's claim to divine restoration is preferable as to the alternative Catholic version with, and I say again, all it's gory details. We have common ground however in that there needs to be a line of Priesthood authority back to Peter and subsequently to Christ.The balls in your court Chris.....going to post this?		See my response to Allen on the 30th of March, 2010.
On 18-May-2010, Petros said:	Thank you for your wonderful site. Might I suggest that you add to your site by comparing the beliefs and practices of Mormonism to the Catholic Church and the teachings of Church Fathers (the last two of which are the same). I believe this would add a new level to your site and evangelize at the same time. Dominus tecum.		Great suggestion Petros, and as I state in my motivation page, I do not want Mormons to give up faith in God. But, in order to debate them without relying on sources they don't consider valid, I refrain from that approach.
On 17-May-2010, Oliver said:	The argument that Mr. Heaton tries to enumerate here is interesting, completely wrong, but interesting. First, I have read a great deal about Catholicism, and I have yet to come across any documents stating the audacity of the Pope having the title of prophet, seerer, and revelater. Although some of these popes may have had some demons to content with I doubt very much that any of them claimed to be able to stick their head in a velvet bag and divine water, treasure, and the word of God. I don't think any of the popes managed to steal from their own bank, nor did any of them have the magic ability to completely fabricate an entire "book" from egyptian funeral scrolls. And come to think of it, I don't remember any of those popes going out into the world and telling everyone within ear shot that black people bear the mark of Cain, or that women are are their most prized possession. Mr. Heaton, elevating J. Smith and the ones that followed him to that of a pope is repugnant in any sense of the word.
On 15-May-2010, Joel Heaton said:	Now lets talk about how Galations 1:6-8 applies to Catholicism:"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-- which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned."Lets talk about the Popes vs LDS Prophets and then decide who we want to follow. First the Pope was declared to be infallible in the Vatican Council of 1867-70. Prior to that the debate went on whether he was or not. Mormons do not believe their prophet is infallible contrary to popular belief of some LDS and non LDS alike.There have been roughly 265 popes. One span went 3 years without a pope. there was 3 at one time for a while. There may have been a female pope. Lastly there have been 33 Anti-Popes. There have been numerous inadequate popes along the way. To the Catholic Church's credit there have been some wonderful men called to the Papacy John Paul II being one.Latter Days Saints claim 16 men to be Prophets, Seers and Revelators in these last days. All wonderfully prepared men that were not infallible but bore there responsibilities to the world in an honorable manner. Four knew the Prophet Joseph Smith personally. These were good Christian men in every sense of the word with a mandate to build the kingdom of God on the Earth.With the history of the Catholic Church compared to the Church of the Restoration, I will take the restoration over any other church's history.More importantly we have an open canon of scripture and open revelation to help guide us through these perilous times of the last days.One last thought. I think that most people agree that Latter Day Saints are really good people. They might think they are disillusioned, but seldom do I here that they are not good as a people. If all good comes from God, "Why do you kick against the pricks?"		Joel, I think you jumped to conclusions on this one too quick. The infallibility of the Pope "extends to all the elements of doctrine, including moral doctrine, without which the saving truths of the faith cannot be preserved, expounded, or observed." - From the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The infallibility applies to the Pope's pronouncements on doctrine and morality, not on his personal life. We are all sinners and becoming Pope doesn't change that. Even Peter denied Christ 3 times. Now let's take a brief look at Joseph Smith: he was arrested for fraud by claiming he could find buried treasure using seer stones...the same stones that he later called the Urim and Thummim. He married at least 34 wives, 11 of which were already married, and 2 of which were only 14 years old (see the link on my Polygamy page). On your last comment, I completely agree that Mormons are good people and live the Christian life very well, but that has never been the issue...the issue is the faith that you profess, a faith which I believe is not only wrong, but dangerous to your souls, which requires action on my part, especially because I know of the information that proves my point of view. You don't have to accept it, but it is my Christian duty to present the information. God Bless you and your family Joel.
On 15-May-2010, Joel Heaton said:	On your site under "Faith""I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-- which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned."Your Comments:Paul's warning has not been heeded by Mormons.My Comments:Paul was talking to a church that he probably set up ( We do not really know which one) about its defection back to Judaism. I really do not see the connection to Mormons. Yours:He warned us that different gospels could come from both apostles and angels, meaning that the mere appearance of the messenger or who they claim to have authority from should not sway us. My Comments:Right he warns of an apostasy. Which did happen, hence the need for a restoration back to the truth.Your Comments:Even if we think the message comes directly from God through the Holy Spirit, we should evaluate the message against what we know to be of God before accepting it as true.My Comments:Every true believing Mormon or convert has done this and has had it revealed to them that the path through The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the true church and the way back to God.Your Comments: If the message is different than what has already been preached in the New Testament, then it should be condemned along with the messenger who brought it. My Comments:What does the New Testament have to do with it. I really do not see this, as when Paul wrote this there was no New Testament. You take liberties. I would submit the the restored gospel the Latter Day Saints have is not different.Your Comments:Paul did not ask us to pray about the new gospel,My Comments:He does not ask us to pray or not to pray. Here you put words in Paul’s mouth that just isn’t there.Your Comments: he asked us to use our intellectual capabilities to compare it to what we already know to be the Lord's gospel.My Comments:As pointed out above your reasoning has nothing to do with this scripture. Your conclusions are yours and yours alone.Your Comments: Is that how Mormons determine if the Book of Mormon is true? No.My Comments:Thank heavens Mormons do not. It is a mass of confusion the way you put it and without divine guidance by study and prayer and revelation, revelation being the Rock of the gospel it is difficult to find the truth.Please do not say that Mormons do not study and reason to know the truth. We do and then there is a higher way of reasoning and that is revelation from God. Not having to rely on guys like you that have never had it. It’s a beautiful fulfilling thing. It puts one at peace with Heaven and Earth and gives direction. You can have it too as God is no respecter of persons. Try it you’ll like it.Bet you don't post this! (-:		Joel, here's a quote from a Mormon I'm currently debating...a very common sentiment I get in most of my debates with Mormons: "...feelings do determine truth in my life, I am sorry that you cannot accept that. I do not know how to better convince you that 'logic' plays a minor role in religion." Basically, your statement that you have a higher way of reasoning is code for "we don't use reasoning at all, but rely on feelings." By the way, the New Testament contains the teachings Paul was referring to...maybe you should do more "reasoning" about the subject.
On 13-May-2010, Paula said:	Macy. Christian Grace vs. Mormon Grace. Alpha Omega website. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:8-10). Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind, and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you (Moroni 10:32, Book of Mormon)
On 12-May-2010, Paula said:	Macy. Read the New Testament. It warns, 'If an Angel comes to you and tells you another way, a better way, let that Angel be accursed.' We are saved by faith, through Grace in Jesus Christ, not by works that no man may boast. We throw ourselves on the mercy of Jesus. We are complete sinners and saints, at the same time. We believe Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are one. God of God, Light of Light, Begotten not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made. We pray to Jesus because He is the Way, the Truth and the Light. My Mormon friend begs me to pray to the Heavenly Father. I pray to Jesus. We are saying the same words, Jesus, God, but they have completely different meanings. Yours cannot save. You are praying to one god of this universe, but LDS says there are an infinite number of gods. You have been fooled and generations will keep baptizing dead people, wearing the right undergarments, and being super good, super nice. We are super good, super nice, but that won't get us into Heaven. Only the blood of Jesus.
On 10-May-2010, Oliver said:	Macy, as a former missionary, I have seen the inside of hundreds of meeting houses (I can't quite call them churches), temples, etc. So I am pretty sure that I know what I am talking about when I make my criticisms of your religion. But any arguments I or my friends could postulate here would be lost on your unshakable testimony. So I just challenge you to do one simple thing. Trot on down to your Bishop's office after sacrament meeting this Sunday. Ask him if it is true that Joe Smith engaged in sexual activities with 14 year old daughters of his friends BEFORE D&C 132 was revealed to him. Or, ask him if it is true that Smith tried to sell the B 0f M before he printed it? Or, if Smith took out membership in the Methodist church AFTER the so called first vision...
On 08-May-2010, Suzanne said:	To Macy who commented on my recent post. What about what we are saying is a lie or an untruth?? I was raised until age 14 in the LDS church when I begged my mother not to make me go any longer. Thankfully, she relented. I guarantee you that if you went to your Bishop and said you know, I want to ask questions about what we're being taught. If you wouldn't take no for an answer and continued to pursue the questions, you would be excommunicated. My friend's father was a Bishop--he committed suicide; her sister also committed suicide. When their youngest brother went on a mission and came back and started asking questions of the church, they told him to be quiet. When he continued to pursue things he wanted answers to, he was indeed excommunicated. No other mainstream church would do that. They would point to scripture in the Bible to help you get answers. The whole point of your religion is to be subservient. Men are in charge, and women are to remain "pure". Meanwhile, I've never seen so many angry, back-biting people, who are frustrated with their lives because they are trying to reach perfection. Humans aren't perfect, and God knows this, yet He loves us as we are.
On 08-May-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	When a Mormon says "I believe" or "we believe" they are really saying "I was trained to say." What most Mormons do not get is how often their beliefs can be and have been changed or altered. All the current prophet needs to do is issue a new doctorine, and it is "truth," no matter what the Bible, Book of Mormon, or any other writings Mormons use say.		This is exactly the point made in my Faith page. Thanks for reinforcing it.
On 08-May-2010, Allen said:	I come back to this site several times a week, both because of the information within it and the various resources that are provided. What amuses me however is the sheer number of people that make the claim "you must've never been to a LDS church, you'd know the truth if you had!" Many of us that come here are recovering members of the Mormon beliefs. I've passed the sacrament, performed blessings, been to the temple, even baptized someone; throughout it all the joy of life slowly slipped away from me and it wasn't until I realized what the church had done to me that I took control of my life back and have been happier than ever. This site, and the information shown by the creator, helped me to see what was going on but in no way did any of it actually influence me. If I hadn't started looking into who Joseph Smith was, and what kind of person he was, I probably would have ended up lieing to myself to make the people in the church happy. When I can find a ward or branch that does not have 3 or more girls who were sexually abused by the priesthood holders that is when I'll know things are finally looking up for the members.
On 08-May-2010, Stubbycat said:	To Macy: From what I see on this site, it is correct regarding Mormonism. I sense that Joe Smith's sect is worse than non- christian. It so deviates from the healing Love of the Master that everything possible must be done to warn the unsuspecting public. You preach that people can become gods through Mormonism, the "only true church" which is a reflection of the serpent's statement and spirit, "Ye shall be as gods." What Jesus taught and what the New Testament truthfully says is "now are ye the sons of God." In fact, we are already the spiritual children of Spirit. If only we would wake up to this fact and accept this blessed status.
On 08-May-2010, stubbycat said:	When Jesus commended Peter, the Master also said, "And upon this rock I will build my church." This did not refer to Peter the man, but the Truth of Peter's recognition of the Annointed One. If you're going to preach the truth about Mormons, apply the same truth standard to Catholocism. Far from worshipping a mystery, the great Teacher sacrificed his human life to prove that life is GOD, infinite and forever operating and that the real man is now the Son, just as Jesus taught. It is time that mortals discover spiritual man and themselves spiritual, not material. Thanks.		The name Peter means "the Rock"...Peter is exactly what Jesus was referring to in that verse.
On 07-May-2010, Macy said:	I am LDS. I would just like to say that this site is a perfect "example of untruths that have been passed down" (I quote from one of the comments below). Have any of you been to an LDS church? Have any of you taken the missionary lessons? You are most likely basing everything on this site from what other people have said or from false sources. More than half of the 'facts' are not true. If you want to know the truth, go to mormon.org or lds.org. I invite all of you reading this to open your hearts and attend a church session or invite the missionaries in. I promise that if you do this, you will be blessed.		Macy, my sources are all Mormon publications...the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Journal of Discourses...these are the words of your prophets. Just because they make your church look bad doesn't make my use of them untrue or invalid.
On 04-May-2010, Man of Clarity said:	All of Christianity can be disproved using the same worn out scriptural techniques used by this website. It comes down to faith my friends - believing in something you cannot see. The Bible is full of contradictions and other verses that when cleverly put together can make it seem like it is all wrong. I urge to purchase the upcoming book "The Biblical Roots of Mormonism" to find out the truth. God bless you all.		It doesn't take any clever twisting of Mormon scripture to show that your religion is false...it is in plain sight. It takes clever twisting and denial of the clear and meaningful contradictions for Mormons to maintain their faith. You say faith is believing in something you can't see, but Mormons believe in something despite the things they do see...that is not faith, but blind faith.
On 02-May-2010, Suzanne said:	My older sister was married in 1957. She'd been fully indoctrinated into the Mormon faith, while I was very skeptical--even at a very young age. After their marriage in the Mormon Temple in SLC, I noticed she was wearing the Mormon garments, and I asked her why she had to wear them. She told me a story obviously passed down through the years, that there was a Mormon couple found in a terrible fire, and when they discovered their bodies, they were burned everywhere but where the garments touched. Even at age 8, I thought why has this not been written somewhere for everyone to see? This must be one of the true miracles of the ages. Yet have we ever read anything about this in science journals? No, because it isn't true. When I asked why, I was told this is sacred--it's only for people who believe in our faith. This is just another example of untruths that have been passed down.
On 01-May-2010, Dawn said:	This is a fantastic site!!! The information is spot on, without being hateful. It amazes me that mormons can say the book of mormon is the restoration of the true gospel, which is blasphemous to a real christian, and not be considered anti-christian. The sheer number of people who fall for this mormon stuff is so sad. I am also amazed at how they preach the truth, but anyone who doesn't agree with them is a hater.
On 27-Apr-2010, Jose Hurtado said:	I see this website as the ultimate "dare" for Mormons; If their religoin is as true as they say it is, then they can challenge their beliefs without fear of being proven wrong. If their beliefs are false, then they have something to hide, and challanging their beliefs will expose the falsehood in Mormonsim.		Exactly right!
On 25-Apr-2010, Kevin said:	A lot of people don't look at the history of America when looking at the LDS religion. No where in the bible has god every given gifts or signs of monetary value (IE ten commandments). It just so happens that in the 1830's Jackson's "good ol boy" nature led him to deplete federal banks to benefit his friends, which led to a massive depression which Van Buren was left to clean up. Gold was power, paper money was worthless. In that time there would be no better way to grab attention then with a god who writes on golden tablets.
On 21-Apr-2010, Bret said:	When you read the sheer volume of text in the Book of Mormon, which at last check is 527 pages (two columns), consider how many gold plates it would take to contain that much text. Reformed Egyptian or not, that's a lot of gold plates. I mean a LOT of gold plates. Especially when you consider you can only engrave on one side, according to some of the "books" of copper plates that have been found in Mesopotamia. And gold is a very dense, very heavy metal. And Joseph Smith apparently muscled this monstrosity into the back of a wagon... and didn't break an axle... Come on. (PS, when Mormons point to the existence of "books" of copper plates as proof of concept for the Plates of Nephi, they ignore the fact that NONE of those "books" contained more than four plates bound.)		Excellent point!
On 20-Apr-2010, indygramma said:	here are question's i have and need answered. the golden plates,,,,,,,,,, why would god and the angle meroni perserve the golden plates for over 1400 years tobe disregared in the translation process? if this book was translated by the gift and the powerful god..........why have there been thousands of corrections to the book of mormon?		Obviously, because God can't spell ;)
On 18-Apr-2010, Paula said:	To see why Christians believe mormonism is a cult, see: the Mormon Curtain, Eight Signs of a Cult. (One sign is an Us vs. Them or we are The Chosen Few mentality). No one is denying mormons are super good, super nice, love family, God and country. If I explain our religion is not a 'system to be worked', there 'ain't no list', God cannot love you more than he does at this very moment, we are 'attacking' their faith. Missionaries (which every member is a missionary) are professing their faith, but if I profess mine, I am leading them away from the 'one true church.' Its twisted thinking. I was open to learning about their religion, but if I say one word about mine, the walls go up.
On 16-Apr-2010, Haley said:	This is WRONG. You are WRONG!!! If you took more time to study it you would know how WRONG you are. Mormons believe every word of the bible!!! The bible is gods way of telling us of old prophets. The Book of Mormon, D&C, and the Pearl of Great Price are a way of telling us the words of the new prophets. Joseph Smith translated it by the power of God. And it makes me so sad to see someone making fun of the True Church.		Haley, I appreciate your sincere belief in Joseph Smith as a prophet...but the FACTS speak for themselves. Joseph Smith was a charlatan and he has led millions away from the Jesus of the Bible. Please read my entire site and evaluate my arguments and evidence. Make an informed decision about being a Mormon and don't rely on good feelings to sustain your faith.
On 16-Apr-2010, Paula said:	At first I thought your site was pro-mormonism. If you google mormon cults, a mormon has a website promoting mormons as a cult in a 'good way'. Thank you for seeing the truth and teaching, acknowledging and helping us out here who are thrown into relationships with mormons. I am in the Bible Belt. A TBM mormon family moved in. I had no knowledge of mormonism and it has been a fascinating journey for me regarding true Christianity, cults and how seemingly intelligent loving people and be so sincerely wrong. No newspapers, cable, television, strict obedience in every possible way (fasting, tithing, food (storage, organic, no preservatives), pure academic success in every way, yet so much striving, asking for favors, not knowing any boundaries (when to leave), not really wanting to be true friends but just a someone to compare themselves to, a little above the rest of us. Feeling sorry somehow they cannot help us. We believe Ephesians 'saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not by works that no man may boast.' Yet their entire faith is based on eternal progression, even God was man that 'progressed' to become worthy. I found much help in Hank Hannegraff, Mormon Research Ministry, James Potter debating Christianity vs. Mormonism, the Alpha Omega Ministries, Mormon Coffee website, Exmormon Lyndon on YouTube at Exmormon Conference, YouTube vide Bible vs. Book of Mormon. My journey has led me closer to my religion, my god and a deeper understanding of how much I was missing not knowing how much God pours His Love, Grace, Mercy, and Forgiveness on us. Our children being 'spirit brothers', and telling us 'all other churches were Satan' turned out to be a good thing, though at the time, I could not imagine more hurtful words ever spoken.
On 15-Apr-2010, CPC said:	My understanding of Mormonism is nothing like what this site says it is. How could it be bad or wrong to worship Christ. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the name of this "Mormon" religion. If those who visit this site consider themselves christians then they shouldn't have any problem how worshipers of Christ go about worshiping Christ. Love God and love thy neighbor. It is what Christ would want of us all. In my opinion fighting against those that follow Christ is nothing short of fighting against Christ. If the "Mormons" are so wrong in their beliefs then why not let Christ deal with them. This is a good site though. It will strengthen the vigilant while at the same time break down those of little faith.		The Christ that Mormons worship is not the same Christ of the Bible...I believe Christ would want us to fight against the spreading of lies about Him.
On 15-Apr-2010, chapin said:	I have to say that I fell upon this site by accident. I am very sad to see that we spend our time making sites to disprove churches, and religions simply because we may not agree.The beauty of our country is that we have those freedoms to choose.I would love to see the maker of this sight use all that time and effort to better the world by helping improve world hunger, or clothe the naked or get involved with his community to make a change that will really M E A N something and will have really helped another someday.As for the proving or disproving, no where in any scriptures that I have ever read are we told as followers of God that we are to be judge and jury!The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints should have the same rights as anyother church.And furthermore, the Bible says the righteous WILL be persecuted!		No one is attacking the Mormons' right to practice their religion...my site only provides information to those seeking the truth. With all the information, we can make better decisions on how we want to live our lives. Also, don't confuse judging a belief or a practice with judging a human...the first we are supposed to do, the latter is God's job.
On 30-Mar-2010, Allen said:	Under the "True Church" heading you ask where there was room for the Church to fall into apostasy. You don't touch on how after Jesus was Crucified some of his apostles denied him, and those who didn't were hunted down and killed. This seems to open up the room for apostasy to set in. I would love to see you go a bit more indepth about this.Another topic you might approach is that some members of the LDS Church believe that God is married, but can give no scriptural reference to it. Is there any actual backing to this, or is it simply people trying to humanize God?		On the apostasy issue, I don't dispute that there were "fallings away"...the Reformation was one such apostasy. The Mormon religion, however, is based on the claim that the Church fell into TOTAL apostasy, and was therefore no longer God's church on earth until Joseph Smith restored it. This, as I point out, goes against Jesus' promise to be with His Church until the end of time. On God being married, they don't need scripture, because they have their living prophets who have "revealed" it to them. They actually believe God has many wives, as you must be in a polygamous marriage to attain godhood.
On 28-Mar-2010, Deanna said:	Funny, I have read all of your crazy comments about the Mormon Church, and didn't find one thing that "disproved" it. You should take the time to really study the Book of Mormon and ask Heavenly Father to show you by the Spirit that it is true! You would be amazed, the Lord still loves you but He does not like what you are saying about His church!		Deanna, when intellectual reasoning and evidence don't play a role in your decision to believe in Mormonism, it comes as no surprise that you weren't convinced. Unfortunately for you, God is rational.
On 17-Mar-2010, Bradford Coates said:	I would suggest the book MORMON AMERICA to anyone looking to understand the modern mormon religion. I think the founders were,lets just say,questionable!!! Please investigate before joining this cause.
On 13-Mar-2010, Suzanne said:	I didn't know until I found my faith that people don't have to be "told" how to live their lives. Think about it--none of your clergy are very well educated--how can they tell you how you need to live your life? Do you really think God doesn't have anything else to do so He speaks to them directly? He doesn't work that way. There isn't one Mormon I work with--and believe me, I work with a lot of them--that thinks on their own about faith. It's all spoon fed. They even speak phrases I used to hear as a child, which have been passed down forever. In other religions, you're allowed to question scripture. Only cults require blind obedience.		Great comment!
On 12-Mar-2010, J.C. said:	First off, I want to address the previous comment. Jennifer, whether or not you believe in Mormonism, I think it's ironic how you can call the LDS church a cult. Last time I checked, a cults didn't teach about Jesus Christ and wonderful values. Being a member, I believe that it requires faith AND logic to be Mormon, which is why this church is so great. It makes perfect sense in so many ways. God is loving and wants the best for us. This site claims that eternal marriage is false, but, if God loves us so much, why wouldn't he want us to live with our families forever? In the polygamy section it shows Jacob 2:24,27 as proof that God didn't approve of David and Solomon's multiple wives. HOWEVER, it is taken out of context! If you read the other verses, God is displeased with the people for using David and Solomon to justify their polygamous acts. David and solomon were specifically called by God to have many wives to have many children. The LDS church is perfectly organized, exactly as Christ's church of old, and no other church is. As fellow Christians, I know that their are many good churches. They just don't have the FULLNESS of Jesus Christ's gospel.		J.C., how does having a different gospel fulfill the gospel?...Jesus himself brought the fullness of the gospel. To claim that additional teachings were required is to ignore the purpose for which Jesus came to this world. I also find it funny that you say God was displeased with people for using David and Solomon to justify their polygamous acts...that's exactly what Joseph Smith did! And just because you're not married in heaven doesn't mean you can't be with your family in heaven...why don't you just take Jesus' word on the subject?
On 08-Mar-2010, Me said:	You know its Really sad that you have time to do this and Make fun of the Lords True Church here on the Earth. I KNOW THAT THE CHRUCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS IS THE TRUE CHURCH ON THE EARTH TODAY. How to I know, simple I asked Heavenly Father, Or as you Call him GOD. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and by that he gave Revelations to his People in the time of old, why can't he now. Infact I know he can, because he has told me though the Holy Ghost that This is his Church on the Earth, that the Book of Mormon is True, and he Does infact have a Living Prophet even Thomas S. Monson. I know these to be true, and anything you say or Do can not persuade me otherwise. I say this in the Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Amen.		You say God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, but that goes against your church's teaching on eternal progression. I know that my response is rational, and therefore, does not apply, so I pray that the Holy Ghost snaps you out of your blindness...see the previous comment by Richard.
On 07-Mar-2010, Richard said:	I love your site! I have included a link on my facebook page. I come from a strict mormon family and I know all to well how the church really is! I am a direct descendant of Brigham young. All I can say about that is he was as crazy as he was smart. Not to bash on my family but I have done a lot of research of my own. Everything I've read on your site checks out, but you have only touched the tip of the iceberg! The amount of information and evidence could take a lifetime to study. Keep up the good work! By the way, to those who are offended by this site, I say this man has been very kind and is only offering you the truth! Sometimes the truth hurts. As for myself, I wasted too many years believing the Mormon lies. It's ok to be proven wrong, it's only then that you can begin to live in the truth! thanks and God bless everyone!		Thanks!
On 05-Mar-2010, Tobin said:	I spent some time perusing your website and like most anti-mormon websites, it contains many of the myriad of falsities which have been launched at mormons for years. I do appreciate the time you took to put this together though; and I shall refer to it in the future. It is often time-consuming to find and source many of these baseless and false arguments when I speak with people unfamiliar with mormonism and your website will prove invaluable for this purpose. I get a sense after reviewing your statements that you are confident you are correct in your position, so no reasoned discussion with you is likely to dissuade you. However, I would like to state to you that we shall see who is correct when we all stand before God to be judged.		Tobin, you accuse me of being unwilling to budge on my views, yet what are you doing by just dismissing my arguments as tired, old arguments? We can debate til kingdom come about the meaning of Bible verses, but the evidence that I and others provide regarding the Book of Abraham is solid...your church cannot refute it...Joseph Smith was a fraud. Yes, I am firm in my position, because it is based in fact and not feeling.
On 24-Feb-2010, Ashley said:	ok people dont need to judge mormons. half of what people say about mormons dont even know the religon.they just go by on what they heard.really if ur ganna judge a religon u should know about it first.mormon is a very good religon.so stop judgeing it because u dont know anything about.we are what we are an we are proud of it so stop puting the other mormons down with lies.learn about it maby go to a mormon church or read the book of mormon bc u dont know anything about us.an we believe in bpth the bible an the book of mormon.so shutup an stop with all the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!		Thanks for your calm and educated response.
On 19-Feb-2010, Dave said:	I've been all over your site here, and all I can say is that it is a shame to see such a herculean effort of time and energy go for naught. Sadly, in spite of all your efforts, you have simply proven(or should I say "disproven") NOTHING!!! But merely rendered your own elementary interpretations of the bible and all other evidence you have presented. I pity the small minds you have swayed here. I suggest you concentrate more on removing the beam that is in your own eye first, then you will be able to see more clearly to help your neighbor remove the mote that is in theirs.		God passed His gospel to us in simple language, so that even the simplest of minds could hear and understand it. The simple fact is that God speaks clearly through the Bible that there is only one God, made up of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is Mormons who have to add language and interpretations that go directly against the plain language of the Bible in order to support their beliefs. It is also Mormons who have to concoct wild theories to cling to Joseph Smith's interpretation of pagan Egyptian texts into the Book of Abraham, a Mormon scripture that is a provable fabrication. You can do nothing but scoff at my arguments because you know that you can't respond to them in any meaningful way.
On 16-Feb-2010, Steven C said:	Although I would agree that the mormon religion has many flaws and unanswered questions, I would like to point out that in your attempt to put together a logical, true and sound argument you made at least one mistake. You did a very good job of organizing your argument, I will say that. In arguments one makes a statement, and supports it with a fact. You did make several statements in an effort to remove credibility from the mormon religion, however you did not back them up with facts. You mistakenly backed them up with quotes from the Bible. I was and still am a bit disappointed that you spent so much time doing an excellent job organizing your information and putting together a nice website, and then waste it. Simple logic rules follow that one cannot disprove an idea by employing another idea which is also unproven to be true, valid and sound. In essence, your arguments using "common sense" and the bible to refute the mormon religion do not hold ground in an argument of facts and logic. I suggest as a fix that you take a more Socratic approach to disprove or at least open up the doors to other opportunities of belief for those who read your work. In this manner your readers can come to only one conclusion but they do it on their own, and thus are less close-minded which may provide better results. Just a suggestion; Other than that I really think you have done a nice job here.		Thanks for the advice Steven, but in this particular case, I am using the Bible to argue against the Mormon positions because both sides of the argument accept the premise that the Bible is true and an authoritative source for discussing the nature of God, etc. I think you'd agree that in arguments over faith, you have to have an agreed upon source of faith...I obviously could not quote the Bible in an attempt to challenge a Muslim. You may find my arguments regarding the Book of Abraham fit the Socratic approach much better.
On 02-Feb-2010, Tom said:	Bible: II Kings 25:7 "And they slew the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes, and put out the eyes of Zedekiah..." - Jeremiah 39:6 "Then the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah in Riblah before his eyes: also the king of Babylon slew all the nobles of Judah." Book of Mormon: Heleman 8:21 "...Will ye say that the sons of Zedekiah were not slain, all except it were Mulek? Yea, and do ye not behold that the seed of Zedekiah are with us, and they were driven out of the land of Jerusalem?..." There is no mention of a son of Zedekiah named Mulek in the Bible, and it says that his sons were slain. But the Book of Mormon contradicts and says that his son, Mulek, lived. Non Mormon Yohanan Aharoni headed the Department of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University. He claimed that one of the sons of King Zedekiah was named MalkiYahu, because of a discovery of a seal with…MalkiYahu, son of the King. Ancient Hebrew had no vowels and Mulek would carry the proper root consonants for an abbreviated form of MalkiYahu. Many other non Mormon Near Eastern Specialist agreed that… MalkiYahu, son of the King….could be a son of King Zedekiah and that the short form of the name could be Mulek. They say that the vowels could be a Phoenician pronunciation. When shown the Book of Mormon listed Mulek as one of the Kings sons one said…If Joseph Smith came up with that one, he did pretty good……you got to love archaeology…		This shows the lengths Mormons go to justify Joseph Smith...yet when they look at my Book of Mormon videos and discussion, which show that Joseph Smith couldn't even get the correct gender of the Egyptian gods in Facs 3, they say we just haven't learned enough. The Book of Abraham is the only scripture produced by Joseph Smith that we can compare to the source...and Joseph Smith was completely wrong.
On 31-Jan-2010, Curious Christian said:	My mother in law got my attention to the Mormon Religion the other day simply by handing me a book... "Out Of Mormonism" by Judy Robertson. I am a Baptist with no intentions on becoming a Mormon, though this particular book had me questioning alot in the Mormon Faith. I am not one to question anyones beliefs but I had a few things I wanted to know like "Do they really wear the Covering of Lucifer?" or "Will they really attempt to cut your throat if you tell their secrets?" Your site is astonishing and helped me with alot of my research. I hope that Mormonism isn't just another "CULT", it would be a shame to see God leave those behind. Thank you.
On 27-Jan-2010, Lanie said:	As as a young LDS, I must say that your site impressed me. My parents still force me to go to church with them, and while I have no grudge against the church or any of its teachings, I have realized that there are many things in the LDS church that just doesn't make sense. I will continue searching for my own answers, and I will keep many of the things you discussed in mind. Thank you for sharing this, and even more, thank you for stating your opinion without attacking the church. I highly respect those who voice their opinion like you did: in a calm, sophisticated manner.		Thanks for the kind comments Lanie...glad I could help. Feel free to send me any questions you have and God bless you on your search for the truth.
On 23-Dec-2009, Suzanne said:	Other old and established religions encourage religious discourse. I live in a state where people all around me are LDS, and they love to tell others about their faith, but let another person express something about theirs, and the conversation ends. I quit going to the church over 45+ years ago with no contact from them. They found me when we moved into my mother's home, and though I tell them every time they invite me to church, leave cards, presents, send letters saying they "need to know my status with the church, that I'm not interested in their religion at all in any way. Then they tell me I need to write a letter asking that my name be removed from their rolls--another way to keep in contact with me. I have heard if a woman sends a letter, it will be rejected saying it needs to be approved by the woman's husband. In one case, a friend sent a letter, and he received a response, you are still a member--you need to think about this. This is a religion that takes hostages. Why should I have to do anything? Any other religion would say, we hope some day you'll come back. I'm also told they don't want members leaving because then they can't count them in their member totals. I hope Mormons reading this will research the phrase "blind faith". To the owner of the site, I recently heard this in a church service--"A Prophet does not Speak on Behalf of Human Affinity." I would like to hear your comments on that statement.		Can't comment...that is an unusual statement...
On 20-Dec-2009, lori said:	All I can say is "You're an IDIOT". You bash Mormans, but you are cathelic and do not find your beliefs just as strange????? For instance, you think the father, the son, and holy ghost are one being????? how do you explain that??How can the father also be the son?? You really should concentrate on investigating your own religion!!
On 14-Dec-2009, Tom J said:	I'm always amazed at the time and energy spent by religious fanatics trying to disprove each other's beliefs. Not of it can be proved that is why it is called "Faith". Our time would be better spent trying to resolve the real problems of this world instead of trying to convince each other that the other person is wrong for what he/she "believes". Please read some of the works of practical philosophers such as John Dewey and John Sartre for an expanded world view because what if your belief is simply that...a beleif and nothing more.		You raise an interesting point...we can't prove our religions correct. However, that does not preclude someone from proving a religion incorrect. My evidence, specifically with regard to the Book of Abraham proves that Smith was a fraud; hence, the religion he founded is not a valid religion.
On 10-Dec-2009, mark wilson said:	Forced to go to church as a child, like most of you who grew up in Mormon household I never could grasp the concept and never had this personal experience like so many other claim, it was just not there for me. Now as an athiest, reading the books and reasearch of others it all boils down to the money and dumbing down our society. I just watch the movie Zeigeist and it pretty much explains what I have felt all along, it's pure bull sh%%.
On 08-Dec-2009, Jacob said:	First of all, I think that this site is very well written, first of all with supported facts, but also with respect to the Mormon church. I don't think that any member of the Mormon church can say that the author is being rude or harsh. Anyways, I was going to respond to the comment from "Mormon girl" that said "only the true church would be attacked to the extent that the LDS church is attacked." I really don't understand how anyone can say that any one church is attacked the most. Most persecution comes in the form of anti-religion, not anti-mormonism or another church. The reason that you think that Mormonism is attacked the most is because you're the most aware of it, since it is what you choose to believe. I am Baptist. I would say that Baptists are attacked often, but you probably would disagree because you don't pay particular attention to the Baptist doctrine. I can understand that you are protecting your beliefs, but you might want to really think about your statements and the validity of what you are saying before you say it. I know it sounds harsh, but I can't think of a nicer way to express it.		Excellent point Jacob...and as far as persecuted peoples go, I think the Jews have all of us beat. The ironic thing is that so many Mormons point to "persecution" as evidence that they are right and others point to "many blessings" of being Mormon, as if either of those justify a religion. But when you don't have any real evidence to support your religion, I guess those have to do.
On 04-Dec-2009, Bob said:	The vast majority of your quotes are not from official church doctrine. They are the words of men voicing their own opinions about official church doctrine; official church doctrine is decided by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles by unanimous. Therefore, anything else you may use to try to "disprove" Mormonism that has not been classified as official church doctrine is both misleading and wrong.		I acknowledge that "some" of your prophets statements are not accepted as church doctrine, but they clearly indicate a flaw in your claim that they are prophets. When true prophets of God speak with authority about God, they should not be spewing false doctrines...wouldn't you agree?
On 06-Nov-2009, lost tawny said:	just for your information we do pray to the same GOD as you do. unless you pray to mary, which i dont agree with. you do what is true in your heart and soul. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.		The God I pray to is the ONLY God in the Universe. He is a trinitarian God, made up of 3 beings: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is not the same God that Mormons pray to...see my Nature of God page.
On 06-Nov-2009, lost tawny said:	i am a convert to the LDS church, inactive because i am soul searching. i want to thank you for this web site, it has helped me a great deal. i do want to point out that some of the prophicies that you mentioned were not prophicies but just remarks. it would be like me sharing what i believe and then you turning around and saying that i proclaimed it true and correct. it is not the same. those were just his thoughts. i have asked alot of questions doubting the church. for the fact that i am human and not a perfect being. i still question some things in the church just as you may question things of the catholic church. i do not agree with most of the catholic beliefs but i will not say that you are wrong,for we are only man. i respect the time and effort you have put in to this site,but please look over some of the things that you have wrote for they are josephs thoughts and is not LDS doctrine. also any group of people with the same beliefs is a cult. so every church is a cult. May God bless all man kind.		Religions are generally considered cultish only if they adhere to extremist or false beliefs and maintain many secret practices. The Catholic Church is an open book, as most Christian faiths are, and that clearly separates most religions from the Mormon religion, where you have to be a card-carrying Mormon to enter the temple. Many practices are also kept secret from the public.
On 01-Nov-2009, Mormom girl said:	I agree with the comment from Molly Mormon. In addition, sites like this confirm my testimony of the LDS church as only the true church would be attacked to the extent the LDS church is. You have seemingly put considerable time and thought into this site. Perhaps you could put that time to better use. It is up to the individual to leave this church if they choose, but what I find interesting is people that leave can't leave it alone.		I've never been a Mormon, only had Mormon friends. All religions get attacked, so obviously getting attacked or persecuted does not make your religion correct. You are right that it is up to the individual to choose to leave, but they won't make that choice unless they have a compelling reason. I provide the information on my site so that Mormons can make an informed decision.
On 31-Oct-2009, James said:	Omg. Thank God I found your site. I completely agree with what you said. Mormon missionaries visited me and handed me The Book Of Mormon. They asked me read it and pray and ask God if it is true and that Joseph Smith was a prophet... Well, i read it throughout. Immediately I was shocked when i asked the missionaries that if Joseph Smith was prophet of God, why didn't he know where Jesus was born? BOM says Jesus was born in Jerusalem. Bible clearly says Bethlehem. I guess even a little child knows that Jesus was born in Bethlehem... Well, their answer was "Bethlehem is closer to Jerusalem...." I laughed and told them that Joseph Smith is just another false prophet.... Matt 7:15
On 22-Oct-2009, Tom said:	I just have one question. If Revelation from God for the world ended with the Bible, why would the Catholic Church hold a conference at Nicaea in 325 AD to vote on the nature of God? If all revelation ended how could they know for certain the truth about God's own nature without more revelation?		Because it is hard to grasp the concept of the Trinity...which is why Mormons believe in many gods. Some in the early church did not believe Jesus was one with God, as he stated, so they had to study the scripture to determine the truth. The revelation was already done, the proper interpretation was not.
On 22-Oct-2009, Dot Ploggerf said:	Oh, and one more thing; I do believe that the "Old Religion" (Wicca, if you may), predated Christianity by a long shot.		Last time I checked, Wicca had nothing to do with Christ.
On 22-Oct-2009, Dot Plogger said:	I tend to wonder if if one has anything better to do with his time but to disprove one religion and let others stand. I was converted in 1990, i question some of the beliefs, but I also believe that the Catholic church has some things left to be desired. One of our Article of Faith is "We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how,where,or what they may." I think that about covers it.		See my Articles of Faith page for this specific reference.
On 18-Oct-2009, Claudia Kittel said:	I have looked at your whole site, and even though some of it comes from a Catholic perspective, that's really okay, because you are doing it from a Biblical point of view, and that is what is important. You have also opened my eyes to a fresh slant to approach them from. I applaud you.		I intentionally limited my references to the King James Version of the Bible (used by Mormons) and Mormon scripture to strengthen my arguments with Mormons.
On 12-Oct-2009, Brian said:	Okay. I have looked up all the references he has. They are correct. Right down to the scripture in both the BOM and the bible. Tehy contradict each other. Thank you good sir for exposing this cult for what it is. Let us lead our brother from the darkness and those lies and to the light. : )
On 10-Oct-2009, Giovanni said:	I'm sorry, but shouldn't you be concerned more about the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church and the crimes its leaders have perpetuated throughout the years? Had you been agnostic I would have approached your site with more interest, but the fact that you admit to be Catholic an want to save your Mormon brothers made you sound arrogant, proud, ignorant and definitely motivated by hate instead of Christlike love. Go confess your sins, to someone as human and sinful as you and then we'll talk about Mormonism.Yeah, you're pretty much all wrong!		Jesus commanded his disciples to forgive people's sins...why would He empower them with that authority if we are supposed to ask God directly for forgiveness? Priests sin too, as all humans do, but they have the authority from God to hear our confessions and forgive us our sins.
On 08-Oct-2009, tiggrilla1 said:	as an Anglican I have experienced a God of love who loves all & is willing to risk the the Universe .
On 03-Sep-2009, zak k said:	whatever you may beleive lds members are very kind and generous always willing to serve thy neighbour and community worlwide and does not have a well known culture of inquisition and crusades and pedophiles.		The Mormon people are very nice...I have many Mormon friends and I respect them a great deal. Being nice, however, does not make your religion valid. Nor does having some bad apples make an entire religion invalid. We are all sinners after all.
On 01-Sep-2009, molly mormon said:	thank you for this site, while I am a LDS I apreciate the opportunity to see what the "other" side has to say, and by using the references given test it for myself... some of them are misquoted btw.		I did have to correct one quote from Brigham Young that I'd attributed to Joseph Smith, but I don't believe there are any more mistakes...please be specific if you've found one.
On 25-Jul-2009, Andrew Long said:	I am very well pleased! I am a former Mormon cultist, and, by the grace of God, studied my way out of it almost two years ago. Thank you so much, brother, and may you continue to expose this "religion" for all it has hidden from the world.
On 26-Jun-2009, Moroni said:	Thank you for putting this site up, I want to guide our Mormon brothers to the truth.
On 22-Jun-2009, Joseph Antley said:	Though not one of the worst anti-Mormon sites out there, this website is still filled with the stereotypical anti-Mormon arguments that almost ultimately present a distorted or inaccurate view of Latter-day Saint beliefs.		Please point to one specifically.
On 16-Jun-2009, Lexi said:	The morman bible does NOT disprove mormonism! You obviously don't know ANYTHING! Just shut up and stop being a loserish idiot who lies!		Maybe you should read my site, not just my ads.
On 08-Jun-2009, Melody Mott said:	I think that no matter what church you go to, we all beleive in GOD who is our heavnely father and the one that die for us all on the cross. I hate people that put other people down for what they beleive in.		The god of the Mormons is not the same as the Christian God, which is not the same as Allah, or Buddha, or Ra. It is not the name of the god you worship that counts, but whether you are worshipping the correct God.

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